You’ve all heard about Dwayne Bowe’s latest mishap. Predictably, I’m gonna have to stick up for my boy on this one. Yes, his comments were stupid. Bowe is a very stupid man. It may be hard for us to understand him saying the things he did. But in his mind he was probably just talkin’. All kinds of crazy stuff comes out of stupid people’s mouths when they talk. Ten minutes ago I heard a guy at the corner store say Polish people can’t run fast. The difference is he didn’t have a microphone in his face.
Bowe should have known better. Obviously he didn’t. I can’t say I’m surprised. And I can’t honestly say it bothers me. If my accountant (I don’t have an accountant) says something dumb, I’m going to be concerned. My wide receiver? Not so much. This is the same guy who said the diuretic he took was mailed to him by his grandma and that he didn’t know what it was. When D-Bowe talks, the appropriate response is just to shake your head, chuckle, and move on.
Or you could feign righteous indignation. That’s the path my man Gretz decided to bravely tread. He just can’t believe Bowe would invent this “fantasy”.
“That’s what I believe the bulk of this is, a Dwayne Bowe fantasy.”- Gretz
Yeah, because its gotta be a fantasy if it paints the Edwards/Peterson regime in a negative light. Of course Gretz is pissed about this. Of course he is. He probably thinks of 2007 as the glory years. Dare threaten that delusion and you’re officially labelled a disturber of the peace. Gretz goes on to say Bowe needs to publicly apoligize to his former teammates, address the entire 2010 team, and then speak individually to Brodie Croyle, Kolby Smith, Rudy Niswanger, Brian Waters, Tamba Hali, Derrick Johnson, Jon McGraw, Jarrad Page, Dustin Colquitt, Casey Wiegmann and Ron Edwards. What a joke.
Even more hilarious are the parts of Bowe’s story Gretz actually takes issue with. Dig these:
“Bowe is quoted as saying “there was a girl in every room.” That’s an obvious exaggeration.”
“Let’s take the idea that these imported women “had the whole top floor” of the team’s hotel in San Diego. That would have been the La Jolla Hyatt and there’s absolutely no way that the players could have taken over the entire top floor.”
“He talked about how his teammates flew in these women “three or four days in advance.” Are you kidding me? Anybody that’s dealt with players and money will tell you that putting up a woman in a luxury hotel for five or six nights, when the player himself was there for only two nights is just not believable. It’s laughable in fact.”
Take that, Dwayne! Talk about a knockout punch. Gretz hit him right in the semantics! Seriously, is the story any different if the girls got flown in the night before the game or only occupied half a floor? Give me a fucking break, man. Those attacks are pathetic. Of course Bowe was exaggerating. Who cares? That doesn’t change the essential truth of the story. And is there any doubt in anyone’s mind Bowe is basically telling the truth here? Yeah, professional athletes have sex with women on the road. Even Mike Sweeney probably humped a cocktail waitress or two in his day. Everybody knows, nobody cares. I don’t understand what the big deal is.
If Bowe had named names, that would be one thing. He didn’t. I’m having a hard time finding a victim here. The possible exception is Herm Edwards, but he parried the blow masterfully with his “that’s on the players” routine. Did anybody not see that coming? Herm is old-school, he dances with the girl who brought him. If something, anything, ever goes wrong, you blame the players. That’s what being a players’ coach is all about. That and fake laughing.
In the end, all I’m taking from this is confirmation of three things I already knew:
1) Dwayne Bowe isn’t very smart
2) Bob Gretz is a tool
3) Herm Edwards was a lazy, incompetent head coach
Todd Haley and Scott Pioli seem willing to basically ignore this fiasco, at least publicly. That’s the right move. Haley said he talked to Bowe about it. Good enough for me. In three months this will all be a distant memory, and when my boy catches 10 touchdowns thiss season ”character concerns” will turn into “what a character!”
One legitimate concern I have about Bowe: how does he affect our team speed?
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i am glad Pioli and Haley are basically ignoring this. If it was any other time of the year, it would have hardly earned any mention at all. Bowe needs to keep his hands off the ladies and on the ball.
first of all, i really, really hate bob gretz.
the bowe story is boring. but geez what else are we going to talk about? my boy don wash running ota’s at the safety position? [i will talk about this with anyone who wants to talk about it]. anyway, i know everyone wants to hear what the centaur has to say about the bowe story, so let’s just get this over with:
i like bowe for who he is, and i’m not a guy that keeps thinking he’s going to really get it together and become whom he appears to be capable of being. bowe is a dumb, fun-loving guy who likes being good but doesn’t care enough to be great. he doesn’t want to be jerry rice, he wants to be chad johnson.
were the chiefs stashin’ sluts in hotel rooms on road trips? i don’t know and i don’t really care, but i’ll say this: it certainly wouldn’t have any negative effect on their confidence and focus. let’s say you were walking around town with a football, in desperate need of a reception. would you throw it to a guy who hasn’t had sex in 3 years over a guy revitalized from a night of sexual conquest?
i’m guessing bowe was more trying to say something fun to advance his perceived celebrity, but i’m sure there was some truth to what he was saying. i’ll go further and say that – to some degree – this happens with every team in the world of professional sports. i theorize that the practice of stowin’ snatch is known about and tolerated by coaches because of it’s potential to have a positive impact on player performance. bowe was just too dumb to not talk about it.
I don’t know, there is that old-timey school of thought that althletes perform better when they haven’t had sex. This is more prevalent in boxing and MMA, and even there its probably going out of style, but there are still plenty of people in professional sports who think some very old-timey things.
Personally, I think keeping players away from alcohol and making sure they get plenty of sleep should both be priorities for a night before the game. Importing women would probably impede both of those things.
I suggest we schedule a discussion on who would make a better free safety, your boy Don Wash or my boy Mo Leg.
I don’t know about Gretz’ call for multiple apologies. I assume Bowe is in some trouble with teammates as Gretz suggests and perhaps some apologies have already occurred.
I don’t think Matt and Gretz are far apart on their assessment of the credibility of the story – both characterize it as exaggeration.
If Bowe is not very bright, it is a further reason why he will not become a premier wide receiver. It is my understanding that teams do like some smarts in their wide receivers, and I think that a lot of the standout receivers have been smarter guys.
2 responses:
1) WRs consistently score the lowest of any position on the wonderlic test.
2) Nice bait up there with that ‘Matt and Gretz aren’t far apart” bit. You’re right, we both think Bowe may be exaggerating. The difference is that I don’t think it really changes the story whereas Gretz thinks a few exaggerations automatically make the whole thing a “fantasy”.
The fact that Gretz thinks its his place to call for these apologies is so out of touch with reality I just don’t even really know what to say. Why is this guy still here? Can King Carl get a GM job somewhere else and take this guy off our hands already?
I wonder if there is available information on how well the premier wide receivers did on the wonderlic? I think the preference for WR’s with some smarts might have to do with recognizing blitzes and other events that call for a route adjustment. It might also be why some WR’s drop in the draft.
Surpirsingly enough, I don’t think teams worry very much about smarts in running backs or in most defensive positions (other than free safety and an inside linebacker responsible for calling defenses)
It is a bit strange that Gretz thinks it is his place to call for apologies. I doubt if he influences Bowe with his call, but I would not be surprised if Bowe has apologized in his own way for breaking that code of the road deal.
Wikipedia confirms Matt’s point that wide receivers score low on the Wonderlic test, but my point is somewhat different – that teams like some smarts in a wide receiver, not that the pool of prospects is smarter than for other positions. For example, a team that rated two wide receivers equal on skill and talent, the team probably would go with the smarter guy – although there also apparently are studies that found no significant correlation between wonderlic scores and NFL success. Dan Marino famously scored a 16 (he obviously is smarter than that from his TV appearances) and Vince Young a 6 (!) and then a 16.
For some reason, the Wikipedia list did not include D-linemen, but otherwise, it is interesting that the less smart players tend to be defense, running back or wide receiver (average intelligence as an IQ of 100 is apparently 20 on the wonderlic).
“This assessment roughly corresponds to examples from Paul Zimmerman’s The New Thinking Man’s Guide to Pro Football. According to Zimmerman, examples of average scores for each position are:
Offensive tackle – 26
Center – 25
Quarterback – 24 (Most teams want at least 21 for a quarterback.)[3]
Guard – 23
Tight end – 22
Safety – 19
Linebacker – 19
Cornerback – 18
Wide receiver – 17
Fullback – 17
Halfback – 16″
Final post – some 2009 wide receiver draft choices with very bad wonderlic scores had good first years:
Texas Tech’s Michael Crabtree — 15
Florida’s Percy Harvin — 12
North Carolina’s Hakeem Nicks — 11
Unfair to these guys and others that their scores become public, but I supopse they get to make millions as part of the deal.
Okay. One really last post.
Dwayne Bowe — 15 wonderlic score and 4.57 time for the 40 at the combine in 2007.
I’m just amazed the Chiefs can actually get groupies. If Dwayne Bowe were a viable NFL receiver, I guess this story would interest me, because what if he got in trouble and got suspended. As it is now, I am confident the chiefs can replace him with a guy who can’t really catch a football.
I was actually just about to make a joke about what some of those groupies probably looked like. I’m guessing the 2007 Chiefs weren’t exactly connoissuers of classically beautiful women.
Whether you like Bowe or not (and I can’t exactly blame you for not), he’s still the best receiver on our team.
I don’t dislike him, I just don’t think he has the skills to be a #1 receiver on a playoff caliber team. I agree that he is the best receiver on a team that has never won more than 4 games with him on the roster. Not that it’s his fault, but being the best receiver on a god awful team doesn’t mean he’s good. It doesnt even prove he’s not an abortion.
The Bowe Show is Bobo. Can the chiefs please just put a moratorium on all LSU players? Look at this list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Louisiana_State_University_alumni#Football For a supposed big-time college program, there is not a single big-time player who panned out in the NFL (other than offensive lineman).
Not a real inspiring list. So many Chiefs…..and Tin Man isn’t even on there. That in itself is funny in a way.
True story: last night The Centaur and I had a phone conversation in which he admitted to being excited to watch T-Jack and I admitted to being excited to watch Dorsey.
dating back to pre-draft prep, i’ve never really seen anything from tin man that made me think he was good or special in any way. i was briefly fooled by some training camp hype, but the jack* failed to show me anything last season. still, it’s hard to believe we’ve got two young top 5 overall picks on the d line and they both stink. i’m just not ready to accept that without scrutinizing the situation myself. this is why the centaur will be focusing on t jack in 2010.
*doesn’t acdc have a terrible song called “the jack”? might make a good theme song for tin tin.
That was good stuff especially the part about Gretz hahahahahahahahaha…what a dbag…Bowe just needs to shut his mouth unless he’s scoring a TD. I concur Bowe is set up to have a big year if they put him on the field!!!!
finally someone else in D-Bowe’s camp. I was beginning to think he’d lost everybody on here.
D-BOWE SPEAKS AND CLEARS EVERYTHING UP:
Hilarious and incomprehensible stuff. He claims he was misquoted, and then answers as follows:
What about the actual interview? Did you actually talk to the guy?
“I really can’t remember, man. That’s why I’m still stuck in a daze.”
AND GRETZ GETS HIS APOLOGIES:
What was the message from Todd Haley?
“He just said, ‘D-Bowe, you know what you’ve got to do. This is not your first time getting into something. Get yourself out, do the right thing.’ I apologize to the (Hunts), my teammates and the guys I put in a bind.”
“I apologize to the organization, the team, those guys who I put in a bind. My words was misunderstood and baseless and were said without malice.
“Everybody who knows Dwayne Bowe knows my personality, knows I’m a jokester, knows I like to have fun and stuff like that. Now, it taught me I got to take things serious and think before you talk because words can get you in trouble. ”
Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2010/05/27/1976243/bowe-apologizes-but-says-he-was.html#ixzz0pG7ONCU7
Saw that. Bowe really is stupid. I think by “I was misquoted”, he meant “I didn’t think I’d get in trouble for saying this.”
It sounds to me like he’s only issued about 1/4 the apologies Gretz demands. Gretz has read this post, by the way. How do I know? Let’s just say that wordpress stat tracker can do some pretty cool things.
So Gretz knows I’m on his team?
I think D-Bowe really did not mean he was misquoted – even though he said it. I think he meant to say he was joking around and did not literally mean misquoted. But I think he sort of successfully to to the point of let’s move on.